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« on: July 15, 2010, 12:25:16 PM »

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Blast Corps - Orion Plaza

Dr. Lunatic Supreme With Cheese - Cavern Level

Mega Man 2 - Title Screen

Sonic the Hedgehog (SMS) - Jungle Zone (UPDATED, finally)

Super Mario Land 2 - Wario's Castle

Constructive criticism is welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2010, 05:33:44 PM »


You have no idea how much I laughed when I saw that! Hahahahaha
Nice to see I've motivated you. Tongue

I'll check out the sheets when I'm on the other computer.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2010, 08:05:50 PM »

For Blast Corps Onion Plaza, I can't seem to find the track on Youtube but from what I hear on the midi, it's damn fun! I like ragtime. You just have a few enharmonic spelling errors. Music Theory time!

In chromatic descending passages, the notes should descend with flats, and with chromatic ascending passages, sharps.
Like so:

And it just looks a lot cleaner in general without having to constantly throw in natural signs there.
The only instances where you you descend with sharps or ascend with flats are with neighbor tones like this:

There are some exceptions of course, but this is generally the case.

Skipping the first bar, the next enharmonic spelling error I noticed was in bar 6 in the base. You spelled an E major chord with an Ab. If someone were to play the notes E Ab and B on the piano, it would be clear that that was an E major chord: E G# B, so that's how it should be notated. Always question yourself when you see something like that. It's hardly ever right.


Now the first bar, I don't really have a solid explanation at the moment, but it feels like that F natural should be an E sharp. I'll get back to you when I can figure out a way to explain that.
Other than that, some of those faster notes might be better suited as trills, but that's personal preference.

The Dr. Lunatic one looks perfect.

Mega Man 2 - Title Screen was very well done! The only mistake I could find was an enharmonic error on the 3rd to last bar of page 2 in the treble clef where that C# should be a Db. Other than that, it seems perfect.
I liked the "Insert something crazy here" remark. Tongue

For Sonic Jungle Zone, you should make some indication that those eighth notes are supposed to be swung. Second, listening to it on Youtube... it's in D major. Unless Youtube altered it or something. In anycase, you wrote yours transposed to C, which is okay if that's what you want.
Anyway, measure 3, base clef. Ascending chromatically. Should be a D#. Happens somewhere else too. And in the second to last bar base clef, same thing.

For Super Mario Land 2 - Wario's Castle, the piece is either in D minor or G dorian. Either way, you're missing that B flat. That's what those A#'s should be. Other than that, it looks fine.

Hope that was helpful.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2010, 10:32:04 PM »

Hello Wazkatango, Wyvern.

Wyvern, you have good points there for enharmonics (I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets picky about that stuff). However, I'm going to have to disagree with you on measure 1. I would keep it as an F natural. Here's why: What we have here is a diminished chord. D, F, G#. Diminished chords are always rooted at their leading tone. If you analyze this one, it's clear that the G# is the leading tone (the leading tone [almost] always leads to the root or the fifth of a chord, so the F is not the leading tone in this case), because it leads to the A in the next chord.

Once you've identified the leading tone in a diminished chord, you can spell out the chord. The leading tone takes the position at the bottom (the root of the chord), and you spell it upward by thirds. In this case we actually have a diminished 7th chord (with the B omitted), so going up from the leading tone one would spell the chord G# B D F. Thus, I would keep the note an F natural.

For another angle of explanation, I would venture into the jazz world and the concept of 'blue notes'. In the jazz world, we have flatted thirds and flatted sevenths, so "valid" notes in this scale would be F natural, F sharp, C natural, and C sharp. Since the piece is really in D mixolydian (except for the last measure, oddly). Along with that point, I would say that the C sharps in the right hand of measure 2 should stay as C sharps, because it's the raised/lowered 7th thing. The C sharp is not really functioning as a lowered tonic, so I think the way you have it is correct.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2010, 12:05:04 AM »

Hey there bluescd

Thanks for your input. I definitely see what you mean. I actually forgot a leading tone could resolve to a fifth of a chord. Otherwise I probably would have saw what you did.  So the fact that there were two D's in both chords confused me. And the blue note explanation is also appropriate as this is a ragtime piece.
I suppose I thought the E# would be correct because of the visible direction the notes are going in. Not sure if you see my logic (however flawed it was Tongue).
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2010, 11:28:45 AM »

Hey, thanks for all the input!

I probably should have said this earlier, but Orion Plaza is based off of the ragtime song "Black and White Rag". I've got a copy of the original song, so that's why the harmonics/chording/notes might look odd. They are all right I believe though, I just copied most of that stuff.

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For Sonic Jungle Zone, you should make some indication that those eighth notes are supposed to be swung. Second, listening to it on Youtube... it's in D major. Unless Youtube altered it or something. In anycase, you wrote yours transposed to C, which is okay if that's what you want.
Anyway, measure 3, base clef. Ascending chromatically. Should be a D#. Happens somewhere else too. And in the second to last bar base clef, same thing.

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? I'll fix it.



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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2010, 04:02:10 PM »

Hey, thanks for all the input!

I probably should have said this earlier, but Orion Plaza is based off of the ragtime song "Black and White Rag". I've got a copy of the original song, so that's why the harmonics/chording/notes might look odd. They are all right I believe though, I just copied most of that stuff.
Well then the editor was wrong. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 02:21:41 PM »

Ok, I've changed something from every sheet. Re-download them.

Notice something especially different about the Cavern Level sheet?
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 01:05:02 PM »

More Kirby's Block Ball sheets:

Stage 4

Stage 5

(I made a remix midi for stage 5, check it out)
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